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I don't think incest is just a Liberal western problem... There isn't too many people I know who would accept this relationship here in America.. Purely disgusting is the only words..
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I don't know anyone here in America who would accept this relationship.  I mean, my God...look at them - they're both fat!

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Yuck.  I guess this woman never knew the man as her father, but still....
 
 
Along similar lines:

Texas authorities have taken more than 400 children into custody from the ranch, authorities said Monday. The children were joined by 133 women, in homemade ankle-length dresses, who departed voluntarily.

A central goal of the court-ordered sweep was finding and identifying the 16-year-old girl who telephoned authorities late last month. Acting on the complaint, District Judge Barbara Walther ordered all children removed.

We have a serious problem in liberal democratic societies (or whatever you want to call it) where we can imagine anything done by 'good' people as immoral.

I agree with the thought, but I'm uncertain if this is an example of that. (I think you meant "where we cannot imagine.")
 
BUT if we live in society which states that sexuality is a private thing, and adultery or homosexuality are not prohibited, so why prohibitting incest? 
 
Not marrying children in Western societies is another (example of endogamy). An example of endogamy is only allowing heterosexuals to marry.
 
How exactly do we determine which groups can marry and which can't? As Muslims, we have the Qur'an of course. But in the West, this issue is becoming much more problematic. I mean what justification do secular socities have for banning incest or cousin marriage (do European countries or Canada ban cousin marriage)?

These are reasonable questions and comments.  But I think the cousin and incest questions have been answered -- those relationships produce offspring that can be harmed.
Every society "draws a line" somewhere, and where that line is or should be can certainly be argued.  Sexual relations between consenting adults is considered private in the west.  Homosexuality is tolerated.  I don't admire much about the lifestyle, but I try to deal with people as indivduals.  I certainly don't think they should be executed or criminially punished.
 
Infidelity is another private matter between two adults.  There are civil reprecussions for this behavior.

 

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Salaam,

On the topic, i read this last Monday in my magazine, didn't think much of it apart from 'Gosh that's really, really strange, i couldn't do that' and that's all i thought.

You know you get all sorts and all kinds in this world from anyone to everyone.

It's disturbing but we don't and (we can speculate and assume) but will never know why things like this happen.

And BTW, marrying ones cousins is totally and MOST defiantly NOT like marrying ones father, so please, cut out the *ahem* and stop picking silly little squabbles over 'well you guys do it don't you',? ....  listen, look marrying cousin is not like sleeping with your own father and mothering your fathers child! end of! yeah? can we all agree with that?

Now, please grow up!







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Salam

It happens because society has been getting more and more liberal when it comes to sexual morals.
May Allah give me patience, Ameen.

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Salaam,

Yeah true, Society wants us to be normal and act human, society wants us to accept abnormal, society wants us to be shocked at 'terror' society also wants us to accept 'self-defence'..

Where does it end? it don't, unless one starts at least think and do for themselves and not others!

Know whats right, know whats wrong, and stand by it with your life.

Anyway, sorry I'm just..






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Originally posted by Misbah

Salaam,

Yeah true, Society wants us to be normal and act human, society wants us to accept abnormal, society wants us to be shocked at 'terror' society also wants us to accept 'self-defence'..

Where does it end? it don't, unless one starts at least think and do for themselves and not others!

Know whats right, know whats wrong, and stand by it with your life.

Anyway, sorry I'm just..






lol I know. Good points. I noticed rules are made to cater to their own desires, like 'drink responsibly'.


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Originally posted by IssaRaheem

Salaam,
 
I don't think incest is just a Liberal western problem... There isn't too many people I know who would accept this relationship here in America.. Purely disgusting is the only words..


No, I'm not saying this only happens in the West. The issue is how secular societies determine which relationships to condone and which not to. Ancient Egyptians engaged in incest. It's disgusting to me too. But is something being disgusting to an individual enough. I mean cousin marriage is "disgusting" to a lot of people in the US but people in African and Asian societies have no issue with it. It's halal.


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