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Rating: 0 of 0 votes Quote maghi85 Replybullet Posted: 23 July 2008 at 12:26am
to answer that you would have to know the history of the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
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Rating: 0 of 0 votes Quote LtTony Replybullet Posted: 23 July 2008 at 12:27am
Originally posted by maghi85

when did the world ever address the Judea-Christian alliance problem in the first place that we should stop trying to address it?

why is it reasonable for Tibetans to preserve their culture and sanctity while blameworthy and intolerant for the Muslims to preserve theirs?
 
Every country has the right to preserve their culture.  Where did I say otherwise?
 
And I'll quit asking "what does this have to do with the hotels in mecca," and just affirm your declaration that non-muslims are to blame for muslim affairs in a muslims-only city.
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whirling didn't exclusively blame the non-Muslims for it.
in fact i think he  exclusively blamed the royal family
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Originally posted by maghi85

to answer that you would have to know the history of the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
 
You need to let go of that, too.
 
You asked who was "more."  The reply doesn't have to be exclusive.  It's just an (offhand) opinion.
 
 
 
 
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well how could  you arrive at an opinion without having the requisite knowledge needed to arrive at it?
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i think it boils down to a misinterpretation of what whirling actually meant

lets read what he had to say one more time

"spiritual marketing and money shared between the corrupt royal princes and the jews and christians as usual."

the only vilification in the above statement, to me, seems to be of the royal princes
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ummm
im sorry LTony for taking the topic of the thread all the way to the moon and back
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 "whirling didn't exclusively blame the non-Muslims for it.
in fact i think he  exclusively blamed the royal family"
 
 
Whew, almost remotely back on topic.
 
Uh, no he didn't.  He wrote that the royals were co conspirators in the "Judea-Christian alliance."
 
"Spiritual marketing and money shared between the corrupt royal princes and the jews and christians as usual."
 
Don't you think we should let the thread get back on topic?   I got the answers to my questions.
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Ok, are we done now?  No more talk please about what Whirling said or didn't say.... Enough already
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I've seen many pictures of how the sacred Masjid will look like in the future. I don't know how reliable these pictures are, but I'm quite sure that whats shown in the picture posted by Jamilah can never be achieved by 2010 as the picture claims.

Of course I agree on the expansion of al-haram to accommodate the rapidly increasing numbers of pilgrims, but I'm against having tall building just outside the sacred Masjid, I believe they should have made a complete circle of buildings-free area outside it. Also I object to two of the projects being currently worked on in Makkah:
- Abraj al Bait (the towers of al-Bayt): the buildings are way too giant and close to the Masjid, and the clock is very big bin like. It would be great if they made that project else ware.
Official site: http://www.abrajalbait.com/
- Expansion of al-Mas'a (between Safa and Marwa) : The mas'a after expansion will exceed the width of the two mountains (Safa and Marwa) .. Actually most of the scholars of the "committee of the Saudi grand scholars" opposed the expansion, and said that it will cause people to do Sa'i outside the path between Safa and Marwa .. they suggested building extra floors instead of increasing the width of the mas'a, but the government took the opinion of the minority.

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In order for every muslim to perform Hajj (assuming an average life span of 70 years) A staggering 21 million people would have to do it each year. I understand the current limit is about 2.5 million due to logistics and crowd safety issues. Anyone who goes more than once is denying a fellow muslim the oportunity.
 
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it's not obligatory on every Muslim to perform Hajj
only for those who have the means to it
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Rich muslims?
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