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    Posted: 20 November 2017 at 3:07pm
"Defenders of the faith" locked with no chance to reply or continue discussion by anyone.  Hummm, you didn't even give rock, the resident anti-semitic, a chance to apologize.

Is that Islam at work here?  It certainly isn't where I live with the Muslims who are my friends, business partners and acquaintances.  Wowzer!  He lies outright and you accept that.  No wonder a majority of Muslims have problems assimilating in today's society.  To those who don't, to those who are regular people, I do not mean you. 

Those who are like rock-baby, you know who you are. 



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bullet Posted: 20 November 2017 at 6:36pm
I'm not going to apologize.

What did I say that requires an apology?

If you can't see that Israel has a problem then there is no chance of peace.

I've long called out the ummah.

I'm simply being equitable.

Moreover what Israel is doing is bad karma, history is longer than a few dozen years.

This will be remembered and judged.

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bullet Posted: 30 November 2017 at 1:58pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc8IGcCkKK0

The evils of tribalism. Please watch this horror of tribalism.

All people are susceptible to tribalism.
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bullet Posted: 30 November 2017 at 2:00pm
Israel has become what made it.
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bullet Posted: 30 November 2017 at 2:02pm
Christians are guilty, jews are guilty and muslims are all guilty of tribalism.
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bullet Posted: 30 November 2017 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by The_Rock

Christians are guilty, jews are guilty and muslims are all guilty of tribalism.
All people are guilty of tribalism. That seems to be human nature. What's your point?
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bullet Posted: 30 November 2017 at 8:54pm
My point is that Jews frequently claim that Israel is beyond reproach and the problems are all caused by Arabs.

This is a pernicious lie that I will not stand for.

Both sides are to blame.

Both sides need to stop.

The Palestinians won't stop because the ummah supports the insanity and even encourages it.

The Jews won't stop because it suits them to grab more and more land through illegal settlements.
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bullet Posted: 05 December 2017 at 6:37pm
I agree with the Rock - there's the issue of tribalism here, and the Israelis are fighting for their tribe, and the Arabs for theirs. We're never going to get anywhere as long as they keep seeing each other as the enemy just for being the other nationality, or whatever. Time to move on now.
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bullet Posted: 06 December 2017 at 2:45am
Originally posted by Magister

I agree with the Rock - there's the issue of tribalism here, and the Israelis are fighting for their tribe, and the Arabs for theirs. We're never going to get anywhere as long as they keep seeing each other as the enemy just for being the other nationality, or whatever. Time to move on now.
I've asked several times how you think we can move on and you never reply.

In my view, this tribalism that you are describing is entrenched in the Qur'an itself. There are verses which explicitly warn of allying with non-Muslims. With such a divisive ideology, how is it possible to "move on now"?

Brother, you need to get real.
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bullet Posted: 06 December 2017 at 12:11pm
I agree, I tell jews all the time that they need to stop using the tales about land in the Bible and God promising them land.

Its not a legal contract, stop with your insanity NOW!!!

Are muslims going to treat the Quran the same way???

You can believe what you want, just understand that it carries no weight with anyone else.
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bullet Posted: 06 December 2017 at 12:19pm
I mean do muslims understand that I think their claim to jerusalem is a fairy tale?

Its like saying that the gods live on olympus. Its just as insane as that, and you can believe it and take it seriously.

But your beliefs are just fairy tales to us.

Realise this.
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bullet Posted: 06 December 2017 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by The_Rock

I mean do muslims understand that I think their claim to jerusalem is a fairy tale?

Its like saying that the gods live on olympus. Its just as insane as that, and you can believe it and take it seriously.

But your beliefs are just fairy tales to us.

Realise this.
Yeah, Rock, I've pointed this out many times. If Muslims want to argue with non-Muslims effectively they need to be able to set aside their religious beliefs, which carry no weight with us.

Feeling "insulted" because I insist on writing about their 7th Century hero the same way that I would write about Julius Caesar or Genghis Khan or Napoleon Bonaparte or any other "larger than life" figure doesn't help their argument at all.

Politics is politics and religion cannot be used to justify political injustice.
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bullet Posted: 06 December 2017 at 2:32pm
Jerusalem is finally officially recognized as the capital of Israel today!!

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bullet Posted: 06 December 2017 at 5:22pm
why?? because the US moved the consulate?

Dont be daft, jews always understood that jerusalem was the capital.
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