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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 12:46am
Ok, this is a waste if time because you will argue your insane position rather than accept that a change is needed.

The US army had no interest in terrorizing pakistanis because they pose no credible threat to us.

If we wanted to a single squadron of raptors could send Pakistan back to the stone age right quick.

We have no interest in terrorizing them.

Terrorism is the deliberate targeting of non combatants in asymmetric warfare to force a political outcome.

That's what the Palestinians are doing.

That's what the entire ummah supports, it's also unislamic but that's a technicality when dealing with you people.

The right thing for the ummah to do is to encourage them to stop this tactic.

If war is what you want, engage the IDF IN OPEN BATTLE!

DON'T SEND CIVILIAN PROXIES!
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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 2:06am
Originally posted by The_Rock



Terrorism is the deliberate targeting of non combatants in asymmetric warfare to force a political outcome.


Dresden bombing, London bombing, Japan bombing were all targetted at civilians to force a political outcome.

It's a spade.
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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 6:57am
Again, why don't they engage the IDF in battle?

Why support terror tactics?

Attack the IDF all you want instead of sending money to terrorize civilians.

And don't talk about WWII , we don't defend terror tactics and justify it.

Are you willing to condemn terror tactics used by the Palestinians?

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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 7:25am
Originally posted by The_Rock

Again, why don't they engage the IDF in battle?

Why support terror tactics?

Attack the IDF all you want instead of sending money to terrorize civilians.

And don't talk about WWII , we don't defend terror tactics and justify it.

Are you willing to condemn terror tactics used by the Palestinians?


I condemn all acts of terrorism, be it by Muslims or others.

I am not in Palestine so I cannot tell you for sure who is doing what there. You and I can only infer or deduce from the bits and pieces we get from the media.

But do know this. Armed resistance against illegal occupiers is legal according to international law. As such, Palestinians taking up arms against the armed settlers in Palestine territory is perfectly legal. And at the same time, Israel's occupation of Palestine territories is illegal under international law.



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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 8:50am
That's crazy settlers have weapons to defend themselves not to shoot Palestinians.

Settlers are removed by Israel itself where the settlements are illegal.

There is no need to attack them.
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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 9:40am
Originally posted by The_Rock

That's crazy settlers have weapons to defend themselves not to shoot Palestinians.

Settlers are removed by Israel itself where the settlements are illegal.

There is no need to attack them.


I'm sure you know you are conjecturing. You and I are not there to know the real story.









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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 12:19pm
Are you serious?

Your position and that of the ummah is wrong.

The weird thing is that it's also Islamically wrong.

It's possible to lose battles within Islam, you cannot resort to terrorism however.

That's totally unislamic, so I'm not sure what kind of mental gymnastics you have to do to justify the palestinian response.
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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 7:46pm
Originally posted by The_Rock

Are you serious?

Your position and that of the ummah is wrong.

The weird thing is that it's also Islamically wrong.

It's possible to lose battles within Islam, you cannot resort to terrorism however.

That's totally unislamic, so I'm not sure what kind of mental gymnastics you have to do to justify the palestinian response.


What is my position? I don't have a position.

I am just reporting what I know to be true to you, not conjectures.

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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by The_Rock


It's possible to lose battles within Islam, you cannot resort to terrorism however.


Agree.

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bullet Posted: 13 December 2017 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by The_Rock

That's totally unislamic, so I'm not sure what kind of mental gymnastics you have to do to justify the palestinian response.


The Palestinian response is rather admirable. They didn't pack their bags and leave when the going gets tough. Instead, they stood up to Israel, persevere and fight back.

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bullet Posted: 14 December 2017 at 11:21am
They blow themselves up, along with women and children.

This is where I lose all respect for Muslims... An inability to see past partisan positions.
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bullet Posted: 14 December 2017 at 2:14pm
Originally posted by The_Rock

They blow themselves up, along with women and children.

This is where I lose all respect for Muslims... An inability to see past partisan positions.


I can't defend them. And I won't.

Catholic priests molest kids. But I still respect Catholics. I call them people who are believers in God. It's always nice to meet a fellow believer in God, even if we may have a different perception of God.





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bullet Posted: 14 December 2017 at 3:09pm
Firstly Catholic priests dont molest kids. Some sickos that happen to be catholic priests molest kids.

And we dont condone it, and even the pope has apologized and asked for forgiveness.

So when the ummah and its leaders roundly condemn the acts of palestinians and tell those "fighters" that they are outsiders to the cause then we will accept that muslims do not support terrorism.

The fact is that there are literally millions of muslims who do support terrorism.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/pg-2014-07-01-islamic-extremism-11/
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bullet Posted: 14 December 2017 at 3:14pm
It would appear that numbers of imams also molest kids, but that is not considered as newsworthy or illegal as the Catholic priesthood's crimes.
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