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Your "messiah" didn't know, much less honor, Jewish ethnics, religious beliefs or history so don't quote it as such.  Pity.


It's The Messiah, the one the Jews prayed for and still praying for till today.


Once again, you are very wrong to say Jews prayed for this messiah thing then and now.  Ours is Mashiah, a leader, a soldier - not a man who wondered around preaching stuff to people or bringing them back to life.  Quite a different meaning for Jews, Traveller.  As I've said, educate yourself from the source, not some altered text or by people who don't know their toe from a hole in the ground. 

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Once again, you are very wrong to say Jews prayed for this messiah thing then and now. Ours is Mashiah, a leader, a soldier - not a man who wondered around preaching stuff to people or bringing them back to life. Quite a different meaning for Jews, Traveller. As I've said, educate yourself from the source, not some altered text or by people who don't know their toe from a hole in the ground.


sounds like muhamad to me.
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sounds like muhamad to me.


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Once again, you are very wrong to say Jews prayed for this messiah thing then and now. Ours is Mashiah, a leader, a soldier - not a man who wondered around preaching stuff to people or bringing them back to life. Quite a different meaning for Jews, Traveller. As I've said, educate yourself from the source, not some altered text or by people who don't know their toe from a hole in the ground.


I get it that you deny Jesus is the Messiah.

We Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah sent to the Jewish people.

In life, be like a traveller. Take only what you need
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Once again, you are very wrong to say Jews prayed for this messiah thing then and now.  Ours is Mashiah, a leader, a soldier - not a man who wondered around preaching stuff to people or bringing them back to life.  Quite a different meaning for Jews, Traveller.  As I've said, educate yourself from the source, not some altered text or by people who don't know their toe from a hole in the ground. 


sounds like muhamad to me.


A Jewish person, Rock.  That hardly describes the Jewish mashiah.  Also, mashiah in ancient Hebrew/Aramaic has a totally different meaning than messiah.


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Originally posted by Traveller

Originally posted by Corinna

Once again, you are very wrong to say Jews prayed for this messiah thing then and now.  Ours is Mashiah, a leader, a soldier - not a man who wondered around preaching stuff to people or bringing them back to life.  Quite a different meaning for Jews, Traveller.  As I've said, educate yourself from the source, not some altered text or by people who don't know their toe from a hole in the ground. 


I get it that you deny Jesus is the Messiah.

We Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah sent to the Jewish people.



Travellar, in Jewish history no person like the concept of Jesus existed.  That was a post Jewish concept developed by those who  became Christians.  It/he has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism, denial or anything else considered.
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I think there is a complex relationship between Jesus and judaism.

On the one hand clearly appealed to a jewish audience.

But clearly Jesus wasnt offering jews the kind of messiah they wanted.

They wanted Simon bar Kokhba.

Jesus offered the Kingdom of Heaven. To this day, its something that Jews simply don't understand.
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Originally posted by The_Rock

I think there is a complex relationship between Jesus and judaism.

On the one hand clearly appealed to a jewish audience.

But clearly Jesus wasnt offering jews the kind of messiah they wanted.

They wanted Simon bar Kokhba.

Jesus offered the Kingdom of Heaven. To this day, its something that Jews simply don't understand.


Ah contraire'.  We understand only too well.
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Uh no you don't.. That's why you are a Jew... No more to say.
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Uh no you don't.. That's why you are a Jew... No more to say.


Ummm, you do not know my mind or education, Rock.  You like to think you do but you don't know squat about religious Jews.
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What I know is that you haven't heard the message of Jesus.
It's just as simple as that.

Live a life of service to mankind. Don't worry about your sins, I've handled that part for you.
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That's why I say that Judaism and Islam are similar, but not Christianity.

Your religions are about serving yourselves in some way.

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That's why I say that Judaism and Islam are similar, but not Christianity.

Your religions are about serving yourselves in some way.


See, you know nothing about Judaism.  Judaism is ALL about serving mankind, making life better for all of mankind which is, in essence, serving G-d.  That is why we have no heaven/hell concept with all the threats your people have.  If we serve mankind, we enter whatever an afterlife may be.  We will know what it is if and when we get there.  Judaism 101
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Well I was hoping for a more detailed comparison from an Islamic view.

Why the law?

What is it's purpose in the Islamic view? Does it play a similar role as the law in Judaism?

If not, then why?


There are two main law 'types' in Judaism, one of which carried over into Islam.

In Judaism, there are the sacrificial laws (which the NT claims was done away with), and then there were the laws of the nation such as how to deal with slaves, divorces, etc. - which seems to have carried over to Islam for the most part. The sacrificial laws were only for the Jews, not for us.

Edited by Magister - 18 March 2018 at 7:03pm
Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven
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